{"id":88925,"date":"2024-02-07T15:00:07","date_gmt":"2024-02-07T22:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/?p=88925"},"modified":"2024-02-21T18:35:49","modified_gmt":"2024-02-22T01:35:49","slug":"rhonda-talks-with-kelly-noonan-gores","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/blog\/rhonda-talks-with-kelly-noonan-gores\/","title":{"rendered":"Rhonda Talks With Kelly Noonan Gores"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<section class=\"main-content no-padding\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"row\">\n<div class=\"col-md-12 default-color-padding\"><div class=\"text-block text-links\"><p>Podcaster, Kelly Noonan Gores, hosts creator and author of <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-book\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a>, Rhonda Byrne on the <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/decoding-the-secret-to-manifest-the-life-of\/id1562929417?i=1000640521481\">HEAL<\/a> podcast, as they talk about The Secret&#8217;s influence on global consciousness, the worldwide movement it sparked, and Rhonda&#8217;s latest creation: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-manifestation-cards\/\">The Secret Manifestation Cards<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Click below to watch the video or scroll down for a full transcript of the conversation.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"divider normal thin-solid-div\" style=\"margin-top: 30px; margin-bottom: 36px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"video-builder\"><div class=\"videoWrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Rhonda Byrne - Decoding \u201cThe Secret\u201d to Manifest the Life of Your Dreams (The HEAL Podcast)\" width=\"1170\" height=\"658\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/U3rSrQTuogM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><div class=\"divider normal thin-solid-div\" style=\"margin-top: 30px; margin-bottom: 36px;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"text-block text-links\"><p>Kelly Noonan Gores \u2013 Hey everyone and welcome to the <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/au\/podcast\/the-heal-podcast\/id1562929417\">HEAL<\/a> podcast. I am beyond over the moon thrilled with my guest today. Miss Rhonda Byrne, Creator and the Executive Producer of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-documentary\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a>, and the book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-book\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a> which has just taken the world by storm, and was on the New York Times bestseller list for I think for over 200 weeks, the top of the bestseller list. I mean she\u2019s just sold 34millions copies and her work, your work Rhonda has changed my life, and was a big precursor honestly to me making HEAL so it is a long time coming but I just really appreciate you coming on the show and telling us about The Secret.<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Oh wow thank you so much and that makes me really happy if it inspired you because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.primevideo.com\/dp\/0Q7L8CBWZXNA96SO5XLUXAAO4J?ref_=dvm_pds_tit_au_sw_s_g_mkw_sWw3qCv8BEZ-dc&amp;mrntrk=pcrid_685593310991_slid__pgrid_159990883671_pgeo_9071345_x__adext__ptid_kwd-601638825787&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAzoeuBhDqARIsAMdH14EjhMMoQXDeTlCXO2YL9vSC2jyF6MZ57VqYxMMGCmtblqyHjOiMmsMaAofDEALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds\">HEAL<\/a> is fantastic. I just think the more people that can get out there and talk about the truth the world will be way better for it. It\u2019s such a joy to be here so thank you for having me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Thank you, such a joy. So yes, The Secret, I watched <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-documentary\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a> in, I think 2007 and I started to apply the gratitude journaling, you know obviously I shifted my perception of life, I was like, whoa! We aren\u2019t victims of life we are co-creators and that was so empowering and the practice that I put into right away was gratitude journaling because I\u2019ve always been a writer so I was writing \u2018as if\u2019 I had the thing that I desired, and in three months I manifested this job that I didn\u2019t even know existed and all of a sudden I was making the money and getting, you know, the things that I was dreaming about, and giving thanks for in my journal, I was able to access now with this new job. It was wild so, I became a believer, and you know my life was proof that it works, you know.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yeah, I was a believer, boy. I\u2019m a believer, big time. And even if I think about to go back to when we first made <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-film-remastered\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a> and when we were making the documentary, we were at the very same time practicing it. So, making mistakes and then getting it right, and all of those kinds of things, but if I think back to then, and then think about my journey from then to now and how much more that I\u2019ve come to understand, it\u2019s just, it\u2019s way more. You know, now I don\u2019t believe now, I know, it is absolutely it. If you want to have a really good life and just do and be and have all the things you want to have, it is all based on mental and emotions, it\u2019s that, you know, it\u2019s not hard it\u2019s that easy and somehow people kind of sabotage themselves. Every day more people become freer and that\u2019s what I dream about.<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Well I\u2019d like to go back to the very beginning, I think it was, you know, as I was taking notes it was September 9<sup>th<\/sup> at like 9 o\u2019clock or the Great Awakening 999.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 yep.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 I\u2019d love for you to tell that story of the awakening to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/law-of-attraction\/\">The Secret<\/a> and then knowing you had to share it and then I have some questions because I am in awe of how just, with that, I want to know more about the awakening, and then how the conviction that you had, in spite of having no evidence to believe that at the time.<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yeah true. Okay so let\u2019s go the story first and then we can go to the conviction. So 2004 was a really rough year for me. It kind of began with my father dying suddenly on the 1<sup>st<\/sup> of March and my parents just had the greatest love affair I\u2019ve ever seen. It was devasting to wake up one day and just like that he was gone. My mother was in such grief and that year I was\u2026. I have a production company and that year we were making documentaries, well actually no they were more like kind of films, but on unsolved murders, of all things\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 \u2026of all things. So we have six of those going and I had heaps of crews and edit suites, and we really prided ourselves on the fact that we had amazing teams of people, and the production values of everything we made and how we treated our staff, except with this everything that could go wrong went wrong. I mean I was on a frequency of grief, and you know if I think about it, I probably was the cause of all of it. Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. I was sleeping on edit suite floors, I wasn\u2019t seeing my family, I wasn\u2019t seeing my friends, health was in a really bad way, and then on the 9<sup>th<\/sup> of September I got a phone call from my accountant saying, \u2018you are going to lose everything in 30 days because you\u2019ve gone over budget, $2million over.\u2019 It makes it sound like a had millions of dollars around me, I didn\u2019t. How could we be $2million in debt? He said you are going to lose everything. I was just like, I fixed everything my whole life. You know if there had been a problem, yeah, I\u2019ll fix it. This was just overwhelming, like your whole life flashes before you. I hung up the phone and it was a hard line at the time, oh gosh. I hung up the phone and as I hung up it rang again, immediately, and so I thought it was him back, and it was my mother, but I couldn\u2019t even recognize her voice, she was so grief stricken. She said she can\u2019t go on. Oh gosh. So, I talked to her for a while, she lived a long way away from me and I told her I\u2019d be there in the morning, and I talked her through until I felt she was good, and then I hung from her. Here I had two things that I just couldn\u2019t fix. Like, how could I fix these things? I remember I was in an apartment, and I stepped out onto the balcony, and I just went into absolute despair. I\u2019ve thought about that moment so many times because I think what I did was I completely and utterly surrendered. It was too much you know; it was all too much, and I was weeping, weeping and my daughter saw me and came out and said, \u2018what\u2019s wrong?\u2019 I didn\u2019t really want to go into it though, and I just said, some things have gone wrong. What would she have been, a teenager, early 20s or something like that, and anyway she just shrugged her shoulders, disappeared, and came back with this crumpled up photocopied lump of paper with a bulldog clip on it, and said, \u2018here read this, it will help.\u2019 I mean, bizarre, bizarre, right? And what\u2019s more I went inside, I sat on the\u2026 I staggered to the edge of the sofa, and I started reading it. My tears were hitting the paper, and the ink was running and everything, and I\u2019m reading this in 1 1\/2 hours my life totally changed. Everything that I believed was true was, I knew was not, and that book everybody\u2019s thinking what was it that she read? We have it to download, and it is a book from 1910 by Wallace Wattles, and it was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-science-of-getting-rich-ebook\/\"><em>\u2018The Science of Getting Rich\u2019<\/em><\/a> which was about getting rich in life. When I finished that book, I understood way more than what was in that book, way more. I knew so much, but anyway, that was the beginning, and basically what I did from there was I read every one of Wallace Wattles&#8217; books, I then looked to see who his mentor was. Then I read every book of his mentor, and then I look to see who that person&#8217;s mentor was, and I read every book of theirs and I went back through history mentor, mentor, mentor, mentor until I got to\u2026 well I went all the way back to the Emerald tablet which was thousands of years BC.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Pretty far, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; I just kept going back through history. That was what I did first, I didn\u2019t talk to anybody about it. Then I just kept researching and it was amazing because wherever I looked, I saw it. You know, in all religions and all teachings and I could see it was everywhere, but if you didn\u2019t know what you were looking for, or you didn\u2019t know what it was, you would completely miss it. I thought about all the people that I knew, and I looked out at the world and so few people know this, no one knows this, no one knows this. I was determined that I would share it with the world. I mean I had a production company, so I did have a way of doing that. So, the first thing I did was that I went to my accountant that said I was going to lose everything in 30 days, and I said to him, \u2018we\u2019re about to make something that is going to change the world. I don\u2019t know what you\u2019re going to do but you have to keep me afloat so I can make this.\u2019 You know to this day I really don\u2019t even know where the money came from. When we needed money to pay the team, I would suddenly get a check from a UK show that we made and they\u2019d done repeats or something, and it was enough to pay the team. That was the beginning of the most exciting incredible journey of my life. And everything that happened in the making of it, could make the best ever movie.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Oh I bet. Please make that movie. It\u2019s so interesting because I know a lot of people that resonated with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/law-of-attraction\/\">The Secret<\/a> but then tried to apply it and got stuck, and I think for me, just in researching having you come on, because <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-film-remastered\/\">The Secret<\/a><\/em> was such a huge part. I watched it. It changed my life, and then I was like when I started learning about co-creation, and how it had to do with health and epigenetics, and we\u2019re not victims of our genes. I literally was like everybody has to know this, and I read Anita Moorjani\u2019s story of the near-death experience and how her physical body was as far gone is it could possibly be and with the shifting consciousness, she came through it and healed, so that so much more is possible. Like you, I just have to make this film, everybody needs to know this. I applied it to my life but then I feel that I forget. Like I know how powerful it is and I\u2019ve manifested an amazing incredible life, but then I\u2019ve had like one of the toughest years of my life. I\u2019ve gotten derailed and just in the last days leading up to this just getting back and absorbed into your work and getting out your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-manifestation-cards\/\">manifestation deck<\/a>, and pulling cards, I was like, oh my god it is so easy, but then this morning happened, and something happened. Last night I was so inspired, and I was my gosh, all knowing, and as you were talking about it, it\u2019s almost like a remembrance, I was remembering her we really are, and remembering how it really works.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So I got so excited last night and felt so empowered and then I woke up in the morning and it\u2019s been happening with every interview, like something derails me to teach me the exact lesson, to go talk about it in the interview. I just got knocked off by this intense conversation this morning, and then I went to tennis, and I couldn\u2019t get it out of my head, so I played bad tennis, and I\u2019m thinking of you, and okay, how do I get back to the positive side? I was just consciously being aware but then still struggling on how to get back to positivity and wanting to feel good. And then on the way to this interview something, a work issue came up, that was total mercury retrograde and I was like, this stress was coming. How do we not forget this? When life throws you something that sends you into fear or terror, how do we pull ourselves out of it? I think that people struggle with the\u2026 people struggle with the belief because they get caught in the how, Like, how is this going to happen? How is this going to get better? How is this going to go good?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; I think\u2026 There are various levels and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/law-of-attraction\/\">The Secret<\/a> I think it the very first step to absolute freedom, and there is a level beyond that as well which is, we can talk about that, or not, but with The Secret, you\u2019re dealing with the mind, and the mind is a slippery little sucker, because it will\u2026 I don\u2019t know it thwarts every single person, everyone has a mind, and everyone has that chatter going on, and on, and on, and so when something, when something really tricky comes along or something challenging comes along, I mean the mind just loves that energy, loves that emotional energy, loves the stress and the mind is also bringing the emotion. It is our thoughts and emotions, so it\u2019s bringing all of that and you can just feel everything in your body, like every cell in your body is feeling stressed and the way to get around that is to be practising every day. Because if you\u2019re practising every day you&#8217;re retraining your mind to be picking out the positive instead of the negative. You\u2019re also changing your frequency, going up, up, up because the kinds of things you\u2019re talking about they\u2019re just all on that really stressful frequency, so when you had one thing wrong and you went down with that, then on that frequency are all the all of those other things\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; right.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; \u2026and you just get them one after the other, after the other, and so that you\u2019re not down on that frequency, if your practising every day if you\u2019re doing like gratitude every day or whether you\u2019re writing it down, or whether you\u2019re reciting it, whether you are doing affirmations, visualisation, when we are working from the mental plan it\u2019s so important to maintain it, because if we don\u2019t maintain it, then we will slip and we will have trouble with something that comes along. The way to avoid all of that is to be practising. It\u2019s kind of cumulative so you don\u2019t have to be sitting down doing gratitude every morning, but in the beginning you do, and in the beginning, I would say absolutely. What I used to do when we were making <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-film-remastered\/\">The Secret<\/a><\/em> was not get out of bed until I had tears of gratitude in my eyes.<\/p>\n<p>I would go through all the gratitude of all the people that I\u2019m grateful for, and everything that I\u2019m grateful for, and then when I had tears in my eyes, because I knew then I had really released all resistance, and that I had a complete meltdown and that my frequency was incredible to go ahead and make <em>The Secret<\/em>. That was what I did, and I did it every day. I don\u2019t do it these days, but I do say thank you as I walk to the bathroom, and if something goes a little pear-shaped in my life, immediately I do gratitude. Immediately. When we are working from the mind, it\u2019s just a program, that is all it is. When we are working from the mind, we really need to be putting the positivity in and then you just won\u2019t have the same reaction when something comes along. It won\u2019t affect you the same way you won\u2019t say it is such a big problem. It will just be water off your back and the one thing is for sure you won\u2019t have all the other things that follow. It just won\u2019t be the same severity. I was so aware of my frequency and that I needed to feel good to make <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-film-remastered\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em><\/a> that if I woke up and I was sort of a bit, you know wasn\u2019t feeling good, I didn\u2019t look at my emails and I didn\u2019t answer my phone. Because I knew that on that frequency things can come in and I did not want them and so I would just sit down and I would do gratitude or do whatever until I felt really good then I would look at my emails, then I would answer my phone.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; That is so great because with the power to be a co-creator in life that comes with responsibility so you\u2019re taking full responsibility for what frequency you are on, and that takes practice, especially if you\u2019re starting later in life, to develop those habits and practice the awareness and know what you\u2019re feeling, to know when you\u2019re triggered, to know what you\u2019re thinking, and when your thoughts get like a train barrelling down the track of negativity. So, it\u2019s so great to have that responsibility because if you are on that frequency and then you open an email and it\u2019s spiralling the wrong way, you\u2019re blaming other people and then you\u2019re going to talk about blame and how of a sudden whatever you\u2019re projecting onto someone else you\u2019re manifesting for yourself.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; You sure are. Yeah, because if you\u2019re blaming someone else you\u2019ve just ordered up some blame for you.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Right.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/law-of-attraction\/\">the law of attraction<\/a> or whatever you want to call that mechanism that is in place with our mind and thoughts, there\u2019s only one, it\u2019s only operating through the thoughts that are coming through you, but through that person too. But for law of attraction there\u2019s just this one, just this one, and so blame brings blame. Joy brings joy. Sadness brings sadness. I mean it\u2019s tricky when you get in those low frequencies to try and get yourself up and out of them. There\u2019s two ways to do that, one is to do gratitude, or think about all the things that will sort of gradually lift you up, and the other one is to make friends with the emotion, and to totally accept it, and completely put your arms around it, and it will dissolve.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah, which our tendency is to resist.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; That\u2019s right, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Sort of be okay with it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; The resistance is what accelerates it. The resistance intensifies it, so resistance guarantees it\u2019s going to come back through another circumstance. It is so interesting.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; The same with we get stuck in victimhood which then takes us out of the power position of co-creator with life and giving our power away to someone other than us. I think it\u2019s so, to get out of that we really have to believe that the universe is the benevolent intelligence and is for us, and all of our circumstances, however painful, or challenging, or traumatic, all was meant to be to lead us to this moment. And I know you talk about that for people that are stuck in battling a disease, or in financial ruin, how do we remind them, or how do we remember that everything is truly happening\u2026 on track. Everything is on track always. This is one of your cards, your beautiful <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-manifestation-cards\/\"><em>The Secret Manifestation Cards.<\/em><\/a> How do we believe that in the moment?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; I know it can be really challenging. It can be challenging for the mind. The mind probably isn\u2019t going to believe it, but the greater part of us knows it is the absolute truth. For a start for me I know there\u2019s no such thing as death. I knew that when I read that book. I know there\u2019s no death, most certainly the body ends but consciousness never does. We are eternal, and so we are in it for a long, long, long haul. So even with a diagnosis, we all have to drop this body at some time or another, but it isn\u2019t the end, as you know very well, with Anita Moorjani, her story was incredible. There\u2019s an easing in there already, but when we get all tense and we&#8217;re resisting life and we\u2019re saying no, no, no, we are making it worse. That is the tricky part about it. We need to be able to shift ourselves and just feel better, and I\u2019ve had heaps and heaps of things that were super, super, challenging and I had to shift myself and I have to move myself off the frequency that I was on. And even to a point like there was one when my daughter was very unwell, and I just had so many scary thoughts that took me right down and into depression, really fast. When I hit there, I knew where I was, and so I started to try and think better thoughts to get myself up and off that frequency. I am and I knew when I was on it. I knew. Oh, I\u2019m here for a reason, because there\u2019s something in here that\u2019s going to help people. I tried using thoughts and what I found when I was there that the thoughts were really weak. They don\u2019t have the same kind of power and that\u2019s like a self-protection mechanism because we don\u2019t have good thoughts when we are down that low. So, what I did was, I just love that depression. I really put my arms around it, and loved it, and that was hard to do because when I went to do it, it would intensify just for like a second, just a second but enough for you to go whoa. But it dissolved, it absolutely dissolved, and then there I was, full of light, no dark cloud and after a couple of hours it came back a little bit, but nothing like it was. I just did the same thing dissolved again, and so in a couple of days it was totally gone. Totally. That taught me another way to deal with really difficult situations. If we just understand that resisting will make it worse, and saying no, and why did this happen, resisting and fighting and all of those kinds of things are making it worse, and love will completely dissolve it. And gratitude of course is really a form of love. Love, gratitude, appreciation. I used to do all of these things where I\u2019d do these love rampages, and I would just start off by, I love it when the sky is blue like this, I love it when the mornings are fresh, I absolutely love California, I love all the palm trees in California, and I would just go on, on, on, and after 17 seconds law of attraction kicks in and gives you way more thoughts. I would just do this rampage and then I would feel incredible. Like for a few minutes and then I would feel amazing. I came up with so many tricks, things to do to get myself out of the funk because I knew that when I could do that my life would change. And I had heaps of fearful events, and all kinds of things that I went through, but I was just determined that I wouldn\u2019t sink with a ship. That I would just lift myself up because all we have to do is change here and everything out there will change. Like if we have to change the world, how hard would that be? You know try and change the world.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Fight the world. All we have to do with changing here, it\u2019s so simple really.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah, oh my gosh. You say that on the frequency of joy you\u2019ve got everything that you want. I quoted you on that in a little story I posted this morning. You talk about it if you\u2019re in joy you manifest quickly. I\u2019d love for you to talk a little bit about timing because I know people are like, I\u2019ve been doing this, and nothing is working. Is there ever a time where you\u2019re desiring something, and you\u2019re feeling as if, you\u2019re doing what you think is right is there ever a time where you like? Maybe it\u2019s just not meant for me, and you change course, or is it more that you think a factor of deep down, we don\u2019t believe we\u2019re worthy of receiving?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yes. I think that\u2019s mostly it. I think it\u2019s mostly it for people that are visualising. I mean if they believe they have it, you believe, it will manifest, as simple as that. You believe it will manifest. You can\u2019t stop it. It\u2019s going to manifest, so if it hasn\u2019t manifested then, it\u2019s not\u2026 there\u2019s not the full belief. We could feel like we are believing, but there could be another belief from our childhood or from earlier in our life, that is one that where I don\u2019t deserve it. Because all of those things you have to work hard and struggle you know, nothing comes for free, like all of those kinds of things which are so not true.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Everything goods comes for free. So, you have all of those things that have been fed into us and take up their positioning in the subconscious mind, so the thing about manifesting is the more you visualise and the more you feel that you have it, the more that you\u2019re going to push that unworthy belief down lower and your belief will rise above it and it will manifest.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Amazing, and then, just because you\u2019re so in practice and enlightened and aware and remember much more regularly than most of us, how do you explain\u2026 What is your view of can everybody, if everybody woke up to your knowing, is the end goal of life like utopian or where everyone\u2019s manifesting, or is there always going to be a balance of negative frequency and negative manifesting that puts the pressure on us to grow? You know what I\u2019m saying? You know what I mean? Why would God allow wars and a lot of suffering, to a point of the suffering and the challenges make us who we are, but is there some balance that it always has to be in existence on earth of light and dark?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Well we are in a duality. There\u2019s up and there\u2019s down, so we have the appearance of two of everything. You know good and bad, positive and negative, so we are in duality, and we do have that experience and that\u2019s why you see all of these things happening around the world, and I guess it\u2019s just humanity&#8217;s journey, but in the end, yes, it is utopia, for every single being, not one is excluded. It is knowing that you\u2019re completely free, knowing the divinity that you really are, and that you are 100% joy love clarity, freedom, all of those things, beauty, like every single one of us, innocence is what we are, beauty, freedom, joy, so we don\u2019t experience that here but for some darn reason we wanted to have this experience. We wanted to experience what it was like to get hurt, or to feel sad, because we&#8217;re all the time in joy. So, we are having this experience but for me, for my journey, there is according to the teachings, no one hurts, or no one harms. So, no one dies, and no one hurts or harms and sure I can think of heaps of experiences where I\u2019ve felt hurt, but ultimately, is what the teachings say, ultimately no one is hurt or harmed because it\u2019s really just like a dream. And in a dream, we\u2019re not hurt or harmed right, where it feels like we are, but we\u2019re not. Yes, it\u2019s probably a long way away.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; It\u2019s probably some years away, it\u2019s probably some years away, but I want people to know that they can have heaven on Earth now, they can. This is what I think is so incredible about this time now, because in our history there are just a very small amount of human beings that found that heaven on Earth. Now there are a lot more, and the way to begin is to control the mind. That\u2019s the first step. I truly believe, that was my first step, and I am convinced it was so easy. I felt it was so easy to do, put on a piece of music, do anything to feel better. Just do anything to feel better, know it\u2019s the most important thing and do anything you can to feel better. I\u2019m not saying deny anything that\u2019s happening because that\u2019s no good either, to deny anything that\u2019s happening, but when you feel\u2026 You know what it\u2019s like, if you have a problem and you have a problem when you go to bed, you can\u2019t sleep, and you toss and turn and then you get to sleep and you wake up in the morning and it doesn\u2019t even seem nearly as bad as I did the night before. That just shows you that the different perspective that we can have just in a few hours.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; You can go through life and things will happen, but they just don\u2019t affect you in the same way, like the way that those things affected you like the phone call affected you, and sort of threw you off. To go through life where nothing affects you like that. You\u2019re just not affected, no emotions come up, nothing bothers you anymore, and really the way to do that is to first of all train your mind to have control of the mind, and then you control the world. When you do that and then you can move on to the next stage after that, which is not resisting any emotions or any anything that appears that you think is negative, and not resisting it. Being okay with it because I think it was Byron Katie that said, \u2018if you fight life, you will lose every single time.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Totally<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 We\u2019re always trying to fight things that have already happened, right? It\u2019s already happened but if you have control of your mind, you can take something that\u2019s already happened, and you can totally turn it around. On a mental level you can totally turn it around.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 You\u2019ve got to think about what you want. What do I want? What do I want? What do I want? And the minds going, I don\u2019t want this. I don\u2019t want this, and you have to be, I want and think about what you want. Think about what you want. Think about what you want.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; And know that\u2026 we don\u2019t realise how much we limit ourselves, acting as if. Can you tell a story, one of your favourite stories of\u2026 there was just no way whether it was with you, or one of your millions of followers who have shared stories with you, where there was no way that they could get what they wanted, but they acted as if and then it appeared? I really think we get trapped with people, well I get this much in my pay check and there\u2019s no way I can afford this. They&#8217;re limiting the universe opportunities that weren\u2019t even in their consciousness, so how do we keep those limits off of us, and not focus on the how and focus on what we want?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; One of the things is that there is kind of a world belief that money only comes to me through my salary, or my work, right? Most people believe that. That\u2019s what they believe and so if you think about that, that is stopping the Universe from giving them unexpected money from everywhere, from everywhere. The very first thing to do is to do an affirmation that overrides that believe that the world gave us, and to say, \u2018money comes to me from everywhere for from all unexpected ways\u2019 and to really say it until you start to see that money coming in. So that\u2019s a really simple example, but I remember there was this woman who wanted to buy a horse and she couldn\u2019t afford it. There was absolutely no way she could afford a horse, so what she did was she went and got a bridle. I\u2019m not a horsey person but she went and got a bridle\u2026 Even though my daughter absolutely loves horses\u2026 So, she bought something really simple and she put it on her kitchen table. She was saying to the Universe I have the bridle and there\u2019s an absence of the horse. Because I am convinced that the Universe abhors a vacuum. I proved it time and time again, abhors a vacuum so you\u2019ve got to create the vacuum, so she did that. That\u2019s exactly what she did. She got that and put it on her kitchen table, and she looked at it every day as though that belong to the horse that she had. She got a horse for nothing and the way she got it was through this person, this person, this event, that event, like this whole string of things, and she got this most incredible horse and that\u2019s just the way it works. All she did was to do that, was to have a bridle. I remember there is one other story of this woman who was walking, she was going to a meeting, I think she was in the UK, and she walked past a bridal store. She wanted to meet her perfect partner, and she went on all the dating things, and she couldn\u2019t meet anyone. Any way she walked past a bridal store and for some reason and she had no idea why she went into that bridal store and tried on a bridal dress. She didn\u2019t have a partner she had nothing, and she bought it. She bought the dress. She walked out the door and she actually physically ran into a guy. Ran into this guy and ended up going to a meeting, having a coffee with this guy, who she ended up by marrying. She created the vacuum, she really did. There are lots of amazing, amazing stories like that. I remember the spanx lady.. I\u2019ve forgotten her name. She asked the Universe for a $1 billion idea.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; And Spanx came. Wow.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; And she had her scissors and cut out all the things, and that\u2019s what you got. $1 billion idea. You can ask for anything. Oh, thank you, yes Sarah Blakley.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; They were there holding up the sign.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yep, they were.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; I love those examples and to create a vacuum. So many people are going to walk away from this and think about what vacuum I can create. And how can I act as if. Just so cool. For parents listening and you mentioned on it before with your daughter, say God forbid your child is going through leukaemia or something devastating that you feel powerless over, or your son is struggling with drug addiction, and you want to change it for them. What advice about us do you give parents when their child\u2026 when they feel helpless in helping their child? Can we manifest for someone else?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Well it is a really interesting question, that question, because each of us is an individual creator by rights, no one can create in our life, however if somebody is sick and a child is sick and they really want to be well, then if you add your power to that, then you are really adding a lot of energy you see. So, if you see them well, for example, if they are six years old, see their 10th birthday, see their 21st birthday, close your eyes, see it, see everyone there, see them well. If that child wants that too, and we automatically think they would, but we don\u2019t know we are not inside them, so if they wanted to then you\u2019re adding really good energy and it makes a huge, huge, difference. What was your other question with that?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Just an example of that, like a child and a relationship, or they\u2019re addicted to drugs, and you want to pull them out of that?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; So with drug addiction, it\u2019s a real tricky one because it\u2019s obvious. Everything that occurs to us is a part of our journey, right? That is the journey that we were going to have. If that person, and we already know this don\u2019t we? Come to think of it, that the ones that kick drug addiction, or alcoholism are the ones that just decided they&#8217;ve had enough. And it\u2019s all about that person has to really want it, and then I\u2019ll be able to be free of it. So, it\u2019s just occurred to me how that it is so important that they really really want it. I\u2019ve had a lot to do in that area of drug addiction, and I know I\u2019ve been to lots of, I haven\u2019t suffered from any drug addiction, but I\u2019ve been to lots of meetings, and one of the things that I realised with people that speak at meetings whether it\u2019s AA or drug addiction, it\u2019s those ones that stand up and speak and tell their story are very conscious. I know part of those organisations are on a spiritual journey and it\u2019s a must. I think that\u2019s absolutely fantastic that it is. I think they\u2019re incredibly inspiring and I\u2019ve looked around at the people that are there. and some make it, and some don\u2019t. If you have somebody that absolutely isn\u2019t going to stop, won\u2019t stop, what can any parent do? Still, I would see them as free. I would see them as free, and free of that, and in joy. One of the things that we can tend to think as a parent, we have this idea of this life that we want our children to live, right? We want them to be happy and this and that and have a family and everything, but sometimes that\u2019s just not going to be the case. And we think that is the best ever life that they can have, and then they might be having a life that\u2019s just our worst nightmare but that doesn\u2019t mean that that life is not the most important life they can be living. You know for their journey, the most important life they can be living, because if they\u2019re living it, then it is the most important life they can be living. I just offer that thought as well that we have such a tiny perspective of it, do we not? It\u2019s like we\u2019re looking through a keyhole. We can\u2019t see all the bigger picture of that no one dies and ultimately no one is hurt or harmed and that we\u2019re eternal. We can\u2019t see that bigger picture and where like looking at this little, tiny, tiny little, little thing, and maybe if we could see the bigger picture, we would say that every experience that every one of us has is gold. And essential for the growth of that being and beautiful because it\u2019s taking them to the next step.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; It is that belief that we are all\u2026 I\u2019ve said this so many times, I think people might be sick of it now, but we are the little fraction of the divine, and we are here, experiencing different aspects as humans, physical beings having\u2026 spiritual beings having a physical experience, and so as you\u2019re speaking, it is really about, surrendering, and giving up resistance, and stop should-ing, it should be this way, it should be that way, needs to be this way for me to be happy, and really surrendering and accepting that things are unfolding really perfectly.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; They are.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; What everybody needs to realise what you\u2019re speaking about, it\u2019s all really about the mind and the mind is designed and hardwired to look for threats and danger, and survival, and you\u2019re just giving us the reins rather than letting it go loose into negative manifestation, which is focusing on the worst case scenario or spiralling in fear, and focusing on what we don\u2019t want. It\u2019s literally equal and opposite just as powerful, but no one has been taught to do it, and just taking the reins of your mind and training it every day with manifestation cards and gratitude work, with all these tricks and tools to get into joy and just feeling better that it\u2019s your mind and your thoughts and your emotions, and really just learning how to harness the power of the mind rather than if we leave it to our own devices which most of us do, we are just going to be complaining, victims, powerless, and at the mercy of resisting all the shit that life throws at us.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 And that\u2019s heaven or hell.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yes, yes. And it\u2019s not the outside circumstances, we think it is, we\u2019re so sure it is, but all our suffering comes from the mind, all of it, all of it. I remember this really wonderful teacher in his 80s, and he said these wonderful words, and I was just like wow he said, \u2018what\u2019s the problem if we don\u2019t think about it.\u2019 And you know if you don\u2019t think about it, suddenly everything is just here as it is, and then if you think about it, and then there\u2019s the problem. People would say, but it\u2019s not going away, well there\u2019s the thought. And the thing is, is that when we give up our resistance and we actually do kind of relax and surrender everything changes. that\u2019s the amazing thing about it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah like you said with sleeping earlier you stop the momentum. Do something differently, or stop focusing on it, and stop obsessing, and go and do something that\u2019s going to change your state of feeling, change your thoughts and then all of a sudden, the aperture opens and new solutions to the problem come in to your awareness because you\u2019re not cutting off, by grasping or obsessing.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Yeah and you know it was the very reason that we did the cards actually was to try and keep everybody on track, because in this busy life it\u2019s nothing to pull a card in the morning, if you have it, and then you read it. Then it is impossible for your frequency, if you read a card for your frequency to be the same after you\u2019ve read it as it was before. Something changed and you just with reading that card, and then how deeply are you hearing the words, will also affect the degree of change. I\u2019ve always been really big about gratitude in the morning because that changes your frequency and the day that you then step in to believe, is a completely different day from the one that you were going to live without the gratitude. So, it\u2019s the same for me with the cards, you take a card, and you read that card, and now your day is different depending on the degree that you hear those words. that are just the truth, and to keep you on track, so that you have a really great day, and keep training that mind, which is just a program. That\u2019s all it is, it\u2019s just a program and you\u2019re training it to be positive. I know because that is what I experienced. That is what I did. I mean I trained the mind to be positive and when you do that you can\u2019t really&#8230; like law of attraction doesn\u2019t let you see the nasty things. Like you\u2019ll be walking down the street, and you just turn the corner and then there\u2019s a brawl that happened on that street, but you could not possibly be in that vicinity of that brawl, because you are not a match to it. You are not a frequency match to it, at all. If somebody and it rarely, rarely ever happens to me and I can\u2019t remember the last time it happened, but you\u2019re driving a car and someone toots at me. Wow! I\u2019m so grateful to them. I\u2019m so grateful because this\u2026 I would use all of the outside world to tell me I need to lift my frequency, and that toot is telling me lift your frequency because if you feel good you are not tooted. It\u2019s not possible. Haha!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; That\u2019s hahaha!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 It\u2019s not on that frequency. It\u2019s not on that frequency, it just isn\u2019t. I would use everything like if an ambulance, or a fire engine, or a police car, or if somebody yells something out somewhere that was kind of aggressive or something like that, if I went into a store, and the person was absolutely gorgeous, and you wanted to be their best friend, if they weren\u2019t like that, if they were snooty and rude, I\u2019d be like, I have to change my frequency, and I would start to do steps of gratitude. Yeah, because you can\u2019t possibly connect with anyone like that unless your frequency has dropped.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; I love that so much. If you are not feeling good you will possibly be tooted. Haha!<\/p>\n<p>The funny thing is I had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-manifestation-cards\/\">The Secret deck<\/a> and I have 12 cards here, it\u2019s a 65-card deck and this is like\u2026 what a great gift for people. My husband was listening to you as I was preparing for this interview, and he was like, this is how I live, this is how I think, and he got so excited.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 Oh wow!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 So he\u2019s like I\u2019m going take your deck, and you&#8217;re going to get the new one and these are the cards that I have right now. It\u2019s so great and even him, and this is how I\u2019m naturally wired and this is how I\u2019ve obtained so much success, and I\u2019ve never been able to articulate it, so he is just obsessed with the cards because he picked 12 that really resonated for him right now and he is focusing on them, and writing about them, so I think for anybody it sets the tone for your day, it\u2019s the exact\u2026 And as you said your frequency is exact you going to draw the exact message you need, and you\u2019re consciously taking the reins of your life\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda \u2013 That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; \u2026 and then you\u2019re using the feedback from the outside world, so if you do see an email that\u2019s like jarring, or someone\u2019s tooting at you with their horn you check yourself rather than blame the outside world, you check yourself, and go away. I need to do some frequency hygiene here.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Yeah haha! The world is so good to be able to keep you on track. It\u2019s really, really good and I used it all of the time. All of the time.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Everybody needs to get the manifestation deck and we\u2019ll have the link. Then the last story I want to share with you because I was so honoured that I was kind of\u2026 So Beyond Words did the <a href=\"https:\/\/beyondword.com\/products\/heal-change-your-mind-change-your-body-change-your-life?_pos=5&amp;_sid=839a49db5&amp;_ss=r\">HEAL DVD<\/a>, and like I said your film change my life, and then I learned of course that you did the film, and then I think Beyond Words said you should write the book.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; So when <a href=\"https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/au\/movie\/heal\/umc.cmc.43kbyptvtq16zxfa0z4q3og3u\">HEAL<\/a> came out very quickly after it, it was number one documentary on iTunes, and it was doing really well and Richard was like, and Michelle were like we see it on the trajectory of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/the-secret-film-remastered\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em> <\/a>which I was like, I\u2019ve arrived. That correlation I\u2019m so honoured, and they were like you should start writing a book, and they were like you know Rhonda did it in six weeks, or two weeks or whatever it was\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Yeah it was crazy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; \u2026 I was like okay, I can do it, if Rhonda can do it, then well cut to, that didn\u2019t happen. Like nine months later, had a baby and had no creative juices, but I just think that\u2019s a funny story because <a href=\"https:\/\/beyondword.com\/products\/heal\">this book<\/a>\u2026 and then of course I was like I\u2019m going to sell 34 million copies, and I think we\u2019ve sold 20,000 or something. I have no idea how many we\u2019ve sold but it\u2019s not in there what you have accomplished, but I just want to share that because again it has to do with belief.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Yeah I know.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 Yeah you know, like really\u2026 you and I have the same mission of just learning what has worked for us, and then sharing it with the world to empower the people. And really, we\u2019re so limited by our own beliefs, of A what\u2019s possible and B what we\u2019re worthy of receiving. I just want to, whatever you have to share, to leave with our audience.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Yeah well that\u2019s true and it brings us back to what you were talking about conviction and with <em>The Secret<\/em> and with <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-book\/\">The Secret Book<\/a>,<\/em> the conviction that I had was incredible and I would love to be able to bottle that, and I just with the level of conviction I had, I absolutely know that was what I was meant to do in my lifetime. I just know that was, if I looked at my life, I was totally on track for that, I was prepared for it all the steps along the way, with everything that up and had unfolded in my life, and that conviction, oh it\u2019s just the best thing ever. To have that conviction and I don\u2019t have it for everything. I want to have it for everything, but I don\u2019t have it for everything, but that\u2019s okay. You know believing will get you there, and then knowing, well that\u2019s instant manifestation anyway, is knowing, but in terms of deserve-ability because I just think that is one of the biggest things and I know what I had to do to undo the beliefs that had\u2026. I had inherited just from school or relatives and growing up I had a lot of beliefs like all of us, and I had to let them go for <em>The Secret<\/em> to do what it needed to do. I knew that very well. I knew that I couldn\u2019t have any of those, so I had a very, very strong reason to drop all of those beliefs, and override all of those beliefs, because I wanted <em>The Secret<\/em> to reach so many people. The deserve-ability, oh my gosh, I wish I could give that to people, I wish I could. If you listen to the mind, if you listen to what the mind says, don\u2019t listen to a single thing that the mind says, unless it\u2019s saying glorious things about you, because if it\u2019s saying anything but glorious things about you, it\u2019s all lies. It\u2019s lies. Every single being is special, just beyond words, and I think it takes the most enormous courage for all of us to come into this duality, and experience all of these things the way that we do it, and the challenges, and the suffering, and the hardships, but everybody deserves absolutely everything that they want to have, or do, or experience in life. They deserve it all. If you only do one thing, say that to yourself every single day, over and over, until you see your entire life change.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; Oh my goodness, thank you so much. Guys if you haven\u2019t already ordered <em>The Secret<\/em> <em>Book<\/em> and all <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/product-category\/books\/\">The Secret books<\/a>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-book\/\"><em>The Secret<\/em>,<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-power-book\/\"><em>The Power<\/em><\/a><em>, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-magic-book\/\"><em>The Magic<\/em><em>,<\/em><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/hero-book\/\"><em>HERO<\/em><\/a>. There are so many wonderful books that you offer the world. Definitely this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesecret.tv\/products\/the-secret-manifestation-cards\/\">manifestation deck<\/a>, I\u2019m going to devote every day in 2024, and just watch my life get better and better.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; Yeah absolutely. Get that little mind working for you because it is an amazing tool, right? The thing about the mind, it\u2019s only creative, it\u2019s just creative, but if we talk about what we don\u2019t want, it\u2019s creative, when we talk about what we want, it\u2019s creative.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; It\u2019s the biggest secret that we have, the power to use the mind, consciously and positively and to create the life we desire.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; We do, absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly \u2013 And you\u2019re giving us the tools. Thank you so much, I\u2019m beyond grateful I was able to connect with you.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rhonda &#8211; I loved it Kelly, thank you so much.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Kelly &#8211; You\u2019ve really enriched my life and empowered me, and given me these tools, I can\u2019t wait to recommit to this daily, moment-by-moment practice, because it really is everything. 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